i guess on the spectrum of bombs they weren't incredibly technological. but she's right, this was a very professional operation up until it happened. obviously their escape plan was wanting. the idea they were able to put these bombs together, create the havoc and mayhem and commit the horrible terrorist acts they're alleged to have committed suggests it's not some training, then at least a lot of practice. >> there's one other thing i want to bring up with fran now. assume they were radicalized by watching videos online. does it seem unbelievable that they then would not try to reach out to other people who at least agree with them? >> that's part of the real focus. remember, there was the national security that the investigators used to question him. the information that jake's talking about, that's where that was gleaned. the focus was to ask him those very questions. were there additional explosives? were there additional individuals? that's the focus of the fbi. they want to know are there other individuals out there? this was very sophisticated. let